
Eclipse Hangover + Pluto out of bounds
Welcome back to The Essential Astro Cast.
I'm your host, Veronica Perretti,
and this is the podcast you listen
to when you wanna know what's going
on in the heavens, so that you can
dictate your fate down here on Earth.
Okay, there's a lot going on.
I'm recording this on
September 11th, 2025.
My heart goes out to all of you
that are, in the work of mourning
those that were lost on this day.
We also are in the midst of
figuring out what happened
yesterday with a, another shooting.
There was another school shooting.
There was a politically.
Involved assassination.
I won't say motivated.
'cause we don't know the motivation.
All of this has people feeling
a lot of despair, a lot of
hopelessness, a lot of helplessness.
And I just want to share a little
bit about how we can make it all
makes sense through astrology,
through the lens of astrology.
And I wanna offer a reminder that.
The planets don't do things.
The planets are offering us a glimpse
into the energy we're working with, and we
know from history the patterns that plant
the planet's doing certain things in the
sky and how that plays out here on earth.
We see the patterns, we see the cycles.
Astrology is really.
Watching those patterns
and those cycles unfold.
We make predictions based on
what's happened in the past.
But at the end of the day, we
are human beings with free will.
And what happens in the sky
is not why violence happens.
We as human beings choose to make,
the choices of how to use our free
will and how to use the resources
that we have, and we have the power
to choose how we treat other people.
And what actions we take.
So remember that while astrology
is really helpful for us to have a
container a metaphor, a way of seeing
something and helping us make sense of
it and helping us digest it, because
it is Virgo season, Virgo is associated
with the intestines and digestion.
It helps us process things.
But it's not why things happen,
and so I wanna offer that caveat
before I get into everything.
With that said, the sun was conjunct
the south node yesterday, so as you
know, we are coming off the eclipse.
We had this very intense full
moon lunar eclipse on Sunday s.
Seventh.
It was in a trying to Jupiter.
I actually really liked this eclipse, and
of course I was like, I like this eclipse.
It's helping us be proactive
about inviting in the change.
And then guess who got
walloped by the eclipse?
Yours truly, and this isn't even honestly
impacting my chart that intensely.
So I was not expecting to
be personally walloped and I
have been personally walloped.
So all is well, I am riding the waves and.
Thanks to maybe this overwhelming energy.
I actually have some energy to
keep things going, and I'm doing a
good job of taking care of myself
and I'm taking my own advice.
I've been to the gym twice this week.
I'm making sure that I go to bed early.
I.
Saw my friends to play Mahjong last night.
I'm doing all the things to take
care of myself physically, mentally,
emotionally, spiritually, because that's
the only way that we're gonna ride
through these tough, energetic times.
So with that, we are still
feeling the eclipse and we're
in the middle of two eclipses.
So we had that eclipse on the
seventh, the lunar eclipse, and
then we will have another eclipse.
On Sunday, September 21st,
which will be a new moon, solar
eclipse at 29 degrees Virgo.
So as you probably know from
listening to previous episodes or from
listening to other astrology podcasts,
eclipses usually come in pairs.
Sometimes we get three in a row,
but usually they come in pairs,
um, and they're two weeks apart.
So eclipse season, I often call it
a vortex because it just feels like
we kind of get pulled into this.
Energy that whips us around and we
don't feel like we have control.
If everything feels really out of control
or it feels like the earth is literally
moving underneath your feet, these are all
ways that Eclipse season can feel to us.
So while we did have
the eclipse on Sunday.
We actually had the south, the sun
and the south node meet up yesterday,
and the sun is our life force.
It's our vitality.
And when the sun joins with
the south node, there's a
diminishment of that vitality.
So you.
Can expect to see people leave this
plane, leave their physical form when
the sun joins with the south node.
That happens once a year.
So it is common that we expect
to see people leave this plane.
It doesn't mean that we expect
it to be in a violent way.
It could be that it's a.
Famous public figure and
they die of natural causes.
Whatever it is, you know, there's gonna
be more people that tend to pass on
when the sun joins with the south node.
We have Mercury joining with the south
node today on Thursday, September
11th when I'm recording this.
So I anticipate that we're gonna
have a lot more information
released today, not just about.
That one news story, but lots of other
news stories you might have seen, saw,
you might have seen my reel on Instagram
I did on Jeffrey Epstein, which by
the way did not get a lot of views.
Not because of you, but
because of, the algo.
And we, I, I did predict that September
7th Eclipse was going to break open
the Jeffrey Epstein stuff because
he has a very exact, very powerful
Venus Mars conjunction in his.
Natal chart in Pisces, which was
exactly where the lunar eclipse was.
So even though he is no longer here in
his physical form, his chart is still
active because we are still talking
about him and we still know about him
and we're still learning about him.
And so when transits do impact his
chart, we are going to see things happen.
Especially a full moon lunar,
total eclipse, major eclipse.
Now this eclipse was invisible here
in North America where I am, but those
of you that might be in Australia
or Asia or Africa or Europe, you
were able to see it in totality.
So having most of the world's
population, being able to see that
total eclipse makes it pretty intense.
Makes, uh, we're certainly feeling it.
It's been an intense one.
It's in Pisces.
You know, Pisces is often associated
with things that are spiritual in
nature or intangible in nature that
come from the sub or unconscious.
So we're learning a lot of stuff.
And that eclipse, you know, it was juicy.
And now Mercury's gonna.
Join the south node just
like the sun did yesterday.
So I imagine that today we're gonna
have a lot more news, a lot of
information coming out about lots of
these stories that we're following.
Um, but whenever we have these
planets touch the south node, it
is an invitation to surrender.
It's an invitation to release, to let go.
So while these big things are happening
out there in the collective in your life,
you might be surrendering or letting go.
I had my son's first week of preschool, so
we're letting go over here in our own way.
You know, he's getting a little
more independence, a little more
autonomy for two hours and 45
minutes, three mornings a week.
He is in a classroom with 10 students
and three teachers, and it's a
totally different world for him.
And so we are letting go.
He's growing up.
My husband is saying, oh my
gosh, he's, he's not a baby.
He's a boy now.
We are having our own experience
of surrender over on this side.
We also have the magic
triangle nearing perfection.
So I mentioned this a few episodes ago.
You can go back and listen
to the episode about, I think
Uranus and Gemini talk about it.
But Uranus and Gemini, rinding,
Pluto in Aquarius, they're both
in a exile to Neptune and Aries.
This is forming what we are
calling the magic triangle.
It is a minor grand trine that
is forming in the sky and will
be with us for another few years.
So it's a three year thing
we're living with and we haven't
really experienced it before.
Now there's something else that we
haven't experienced before that I've
come across recently, which I thought
is really interesting, and I'm just
starting to research this, so it's new
to me and I am sharing it with you.
One of the reasons that things
feel really intense right now
is that Pluto is out of bounds.
Now, I have never experienced
Pluto out of bounds, and you
haven't either because Pluto has
not been out of bounds since 1953.
Well, I shouldn't say you haven't either.
'cause some of you are alive in 1953,
but most of you were not alive because
most of my demographic is in there.
Thirties and early forties,
but some of you may have been
here in 1953 and you might have
experienced the tail end of this.
But this was Pluto was in and
out of bounds, back and forth for
World War II and the Cold War.
And some of the things that happened
during that time were not only World
War II and the Cold War, but the start
of the un Israel was established,
NATO was formed, McCarthyism was
a thing, and DNA was discovered.
That all happened when Pluto was
experiencing these periods of being out
of bounds, off and on in the sign of Leo.
So now Pluto is in Aquarius.
The opposite sign, Leo is the sign of
the sun of being able to shine bright,
and Aquarius is the sign of the group.
The community coming together.
They kind of want the same things.
I love the dichotomy.
I love the paradox of Leo.
Aquarius because Leo wants to be the
one on the stage in the spotlight
and Aquarius wants to be the one
that is the rebel in the group.
So they both wanna stand out,
but they both wanna belong.
And so it's interesting we're having
Pluto in out of bounds and having
this experience with it in Aquarius.
What I think is interesting is
that Pluto is, I think of Pluto
as the Lord, Shiva of the Zodiac.
So in Hinduism.
And yoga philosophy, Lord Shiva is the
one that makes way for the destruction.
And this destruction prepares us for the
possibility of transformation and rebirth.
So Pluto is that source of that
force of destruction, which is the
source of our transformation, which
paves the way for our rebirth, and we
certainly need a rebirth right now.
So we know we're going through it.
You don't need astrology to tell
you that, but what I do think is
interesting is that that period
of time with Pluto out of bounds.
It made way for the Civil Rights Movement.
And so the remainder of Pluto's time in
Leo Pluto was not out of bounds, but it
was defined by the Civil Rights Movement
as well as the wars of independence in
Asia and Africa, and NASA was created so.
There is a lot of rebirth.
There is a lot of hope, there is a
lot of justice and righteousness that
comes out of these periods of turmoil,
and I wanted to remind you of that.
I'm not a history teacher.
You know, I got, I do, I do
this research on the internet.
I get a little help from
chat GPT from time to time.
But I just wanted to share that because
I think it's really important to remember
that humanity has been through hard times
before and we will get through them again.
So even if you are feeling those
feelings of helplessness, remember
that we are never helpless.
We always have power, and we especially
have power when we come together in
community and Pluto and Aquarius.
Wants us to come together in a community.
It wants us to find
our sense of belonging.
That's why last night, even
with everything going on and
feeling such intensity, getting
together with my friends to
play Mahjong, it's so important.
It seems unimportant, but
it's not experiencing joy.
And connection with the people that you
are in community with is one of the most
important ways to combat what we are
experiencing in this country, which is
a play from those in power to divide us.
And so when we come together with
the people that we live near in
person, not just online, um, we see
each other as whole human beings.
We don't just see, you know, our
political thoughts or our, opinions
about what's going on in the world.
We see each other as whole human beings.
So that is really important and I
encourage you to find community with
people in real life in the flesh.
It's really helpful and it's really
helpful to take your mind off things
to just be with other human beings, and
I think we forget that being online or
listening to a podcast or being on Zoom,
those things are great for learning
and connection, but it's not the same
as that in the flesh experience of
being in the same space with someone.
All of that.
Moving on, we're gonna talk about what's
going on astrologically this week.
So you might be having
your eclipse hangover.
A lot of this beginning of the week
is about unpacking those eclipses.
But as we move into the latter
part of the week, we have
some really helpful astrology.
Um, on Friday the 12th, we
have the sun Sextiling Jupiter.
As well as Mercury sex Dialling,
Jupiter sex tiles are harmonious.
They're working together.
The Sun and Mercury are in Virgo,
so they're working on the details.
They're interested in the
routines and the rituals.
How are you taking care of yourself?
How are you filling your cups so
that you can be of service to others?
These are the things that we think
about in Virgo season, and with the
Sun and Mercury working with Jupiter
and cancer and getting that help.
And that assistance from Jupiter
and cancer, there's a tenderness
because Jupiter and Cancer likes
to protect, but there's also this
ability to make plans and have some
great ideas and come together and work
together and, pay attention to those
things that you are grateful for.
Pay attention to the blessings that
you do have because Jupiter in Cancer,
that is where Jupiter is exalted.
Jupiter in cancer is
reminding us of our abundance.
It's reminding us of our ability to,
notice the places in our life that
are fertile and filled with life.
Going to you know, the farmer's
market and seeing all of the apples.
And I always talk about the farmer's
market 'cause it's a part of our life.
We go on Saturdays.
But I think that it is really helpful
in terms of looking at the seasons
and seeing what fruits and vegetables
are available to you locally.
That seasonality is also helpful
in understanding astrology.
So you go to the farmer's market and
you're like, okay, the sun's in Virgo.
What fruits and vegetables are here?
This is the time of the harvest.
These, this is the time of taking all of
that stuff, and storing it in different
ways, whether you're canning it or saucing
it, or making preserves or jams so that
it can take you through the winter.
Virgo is the season of preparing so.
The seasonality of the farmer's market
is helpful to come into alignment with
the astrology as well as just watching
what's going on in the nature around you.
Now I understand this isn't
exactly, doesn't work for everyone.
'cause if you live close to the
equator, you're not gonna have
as much seasonality happening.
But you can think about it, you
know, and we see it in movies,
we see it in shows, et cetera.
We see in parts of the north
that the leaves are starting
to change and all of that.
Not yet here, but it
will be happening soon.
The other thing I wanted to mention,
totally random side, just a sidebar here.
There was a crazy article in the New York
Times that they put a lot of money and.
There was a crazy article in the New
York Times that must have gotten a
lot of money put into it 'cause there
was some really wonderful graphics.
It was about how their, your
sign has changed and there's some
silly way that you can input your
birthday and find out your new sign.
And this is a.
An article, an idea that
makes its way every year.
They don't ask any astrologers or
I don't even think any astronomers
to talk about what that is.
And anyway, I don't even wanna get into
it, but I'll get into it because I got
asked about it last night at Mahjong.
So your sign is still the same.
There is no 13th sign.
The Zodiac is named after the
constellation, but it is not married
to the movement of the constellation.
So astrology, at least western astrology,
which is what I am utilizing here.
It's based on the tropical Zodiac.
The tropical Zodiac is, the based on the
ecliptic, the ecliptic is the apparent
path of the sun around the earth.
Of course, we know that earth is going
around the sun, but astrology always comes
from our vantage point here on Earth.
So watching the sun and its path
around us, that is this imaginary
band called the Ecliptic and.
It's pretty much the same as the
Earth's orbit around the sun, right?
So when we see the seasons and we
see each day, that is how we track
astrology based on the seasons.
That is why zero degrees Aries is the
day the sun enters Aries zero degrees.
Aries is the spring equinox.
And we understand the procession of
the equinoxes, which means that we
know that the constellations are going
to move and therefore Tami did not.
Marry the constellations to the
tropical zodiac, but use those names.
And even if you're using eastern
astrology, also known as Vedic astrology
or Indian astrology, and they use the
sidel Yo zodiac, they used fixed stars.
So in.
Vedic astrology, you
might be that next sign.
Um, they're using fixed stars.
They're not using the
entire constellation.
I'm not an expert in that,
but even that, they didn't get
quite right in the article.
So anyway, just to say that,
uh, your sign hasn't changed.
There's no 13th sign.
The signs are not married to the
constellations, and don't worry about it.
Okay, sidebar, done.
Let's go back to what's
going on this week.
On Saturday the 13th, mercury is going
to join with the Sun for Mercury, Kami,
this is an opportunity to have a moment
of clarity really helpful with everything
that's going on with the eclipses.
It just feels like we're in the vortex.
Feels like everything is swirling.
You might get a moment of
being like, aha, this is.
This is what's happening.
I have a general sense now.
Pay attention to moments of inspiration.
Mercury kazemi often brings inspiration,
so that will be on Sunday the 14th.
On September 15th, we will have
Venus and Mars in a sex tile.
So just like we had that helpful
sex tile between the Sun, mercury,
and Jupiter, we're gonna have
this helpful sex tile between.
Venus and Mars.
This can make us passionate.
It can give us a desire to connect, give
us a desire to collaborate with people.
This is really helpful.
Venus and Mars will both be
talking to Chiron though.
Not inherently bad.
It might be a really great opportunity
to have an important conversation
with someone, and you might get a lot
of healing out of that, but because
Mars is opposite Chiron, it might be a
little bit of friction and there might
be a compromise that has to be met.
Venus is in Arine to Chiron, so
Venus is saying where you're feeling
hurts, where you have old wounds.
Cropping up again.
Give yourself some compassion
and some TTLC around that.
Take healing action.
So don't just sit back and wallow,
take healing action by doing something
that makes you feel good, whether that
is talking to a friend or booking an
appointment with your therapist, or if
you know that you feel better if you get
outside and take a walk, do that thing.
But just make sure you know it is
Virgo season we're talking about.
Recommitting to our self-care rituals
and routines, so make sure you're
really putting those in place this
week so that when we have those
Chiron transits early next week.
On the 15th, 16th, you're taking
care of yourself so you know that
you got the baseline covered.
You're taking care of your physical form,
you're drinking the water, you're eating
the meals, you're getting the fresh air.
You know, basic things that can
help us move through some of those
challenging aspects that aren't
gonna invite us to do healing work.
But healing work is
not always comfortable.
Okay?
Then later, next week, we get into
Wednesday the 17th, we're gonna
have mercury opposite Saturn.
This is an opportunity to pause.
Pause, slow down.
Think, take your time.
We are in the middle of two eclipses.
You don't have all the information, so
really take your time with unpacking what
is coming up right now, what messages
you're getting, whether they're coming
from internally, you're inner knowing,
or whether they're coming from outside
and other people giving you information
that you have to do something with.
So remember, eclipses uncover what we.
Could not see prior what
was hidden from view.
So please take your time, pause,
take a deep breath, unpack slowly.
Mercury opposite.
Saturn says, you have
time to figure this out.
Later, next week on the 18th, we will
have Mercury move into Libra, which
will make us all a little bit better
at negotiating and finding balance
and listening to the other person.
We will have Venus move into Virgo,
which will make her a little less
feisty and a little more willing to work
with people, a little more willing to.
Pay attention to the details,
maybe beautify the closets
you've been cleaning out.
All of those wonderful things.
We will then also have a solar
eclipse, so that will, that new moon
solar eclipse will be at 29 degrees
of Virgo on Sunday, September 21st.
That will be the second of two
eclipses for this eclipse season.
So we are really in it.
We are really in the vortex right now.
So do what you can to
take care of yourself.
I keep telling you with that
because it's so important, eclipses
diminish our vitality, particularly
when the sun is with the south
node as it was on Wednesday.
So we might be feeling exhausted.
We might be feeling.
Just really spent, we might be feeling
like I have no bandwidth to figure
out what I'm supposed to do next.
That's okay.
Be really kind to yourself.
Give yourself grace.
Give yourself compassion.
Give yourself ample TLC and do the
same for the other people in your life.
'cause they are experiencing this too.
So we're gonna talk more
about the eclipses next week.
We're gonna talk more about mercury
and Venus' moves into new signs.
We'll talk all about that.
Little quick note we have.
Cosmic conversation tomorrow is September
12th, so if you're listening to this
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It's a wonderful way to get together and
chat about what's going on astrologically,
what's going on in the world.
My plan for tomorrow was to
talk about Taylor and Travis.
People might have other things they
wanna talk about because there's so
many things happening in the world,
although honestly, I think we all need
a little bit of an uplifting moment.
So I might stick with the plan and.
In addition to that I have
two newsletters going out now.
So basically I am finding that it's
easier for me to record this midweek,
so I am recording this Wednesday or
Thursday and dropping it on that day.
You'll get an email when
this podcast gets dropped.
As always, but you're also getting
an email on Sunday or Monday with
a rundown of what to expect for the
week, because I do know that people
like to know what to expect for the
week, and you're preparing for the
week on Sunday, Monday, and you kind
of wanna know what you're walking into.
So I'm sending a little.
Note on Sunday or Monday telling you what
to expect from the week, but you also
are getting all that information plus so
much more information in this podcast.
It's just that this podcast
is going midweek to midweek.
So two emails a week.
I hope that's helpful.
Cosmic conversation is at noon on
Fridays Eastern time for this month.
We're seeing if people like that time.
And if people prefer the
Monday 5:00 PM time, then we
can go back to it in October.
But I wanted to try something new.
Mondays are a little
hectic for me right now.
And that's it.
You know, I love to hear from you
guys, so feel free to reach out.
You can always email me.
Veronica@veronicaperretti.com,
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I'm posting reels here and
there about what's going on.
But it's, here and there.
I post some reels about what's happening
in the news and how the astrology
is helping us make meaning of it.
So remember that you have free
will you dictate your fate.
And that means that when you take care
of yourself and you're feeling grounded
in your physical form, you are going
to be much more capable of riding the
waves of uncertainty and chaos that
are inevitably coming with Eclipse
season and also with all of the other
things going on in the world right now.
Okay, I'll talk to you next
week and take care of yourself.
Bye.